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SLAYER © Dave Ling - December 2002 previously published in Metal Hammer magazine * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |
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"When
we formed Slayer our goal was to be the heaviest, most ferocious
band on the planet," says reclusive drummer Dave Lombardo.
"The money, the alcohol and the women
the fame? No,
they were never as important to me as the playing. The other
guys may have done it for the chicks or whatever, I just really
liked being onstage and playing music." |
| The year was 1981. King had been in a previous band with Araya. Guitarist Jeff Hanneman completed the line-up to great effect. Just a handful of names in any genre will merit use of the term 'legendary', but few could dispute its relevance to Slayer. While other acts have sold more records, scaled higher pinnacles of fame or achieved trendiness for five-minute interludes, many of those names are now asking customers whether they'd like fries with that. On the other hand, Slayer have carved a thriving career from the twin principles of consistency and stripped-down brutality. |
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"Our
first ever gig was atrocious. We were dressed in spandex and
we sucked! |
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A
mixture of contrasting characters has enabled Slayer to find
their current niche. The creative pendulum has swung back and
forth during their 21 years together, some members dominating
the writing of one particular album, others the next. With rival
bands, fragile egos wouldn't be able to withstand such imbalance,
but Slayer seem bound by a unique bond. Their only real glitch
has been Dave Lombardo. One of the fastest, intricate and powerful
drummers in metal, Dave has always been a very different animal
to Tom, Kerry and Hanneman - as our opening quote demonstrates.
While the band were achieving their commercial breakthrough
in the latter half of the 1980s, the other three increasingly
ostracized Lombardo. At the root of the problems was Dave's
insistence that his wife Theresa travelled with him on the road.
On a crucial British tour in 1987, the pair - referred to by
the rest of the band as "Ken and Barbie", after the
matching toy dolls - even had their own dressing room. |
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Formed
in the Los Angeles suburb of Huntington Beach, Slayer began
like any other fledgling band, working day jobs and playing
cover versions in small clubs and schools. Their earliest shows
were based around cover versions of the day's metal standards.
Judas Priest's 'Genocide' and 'Beyond The Realms Of Death' rubbed
shoulders with several tunes from Iron Maiden's 'Number Of The
Beast', 'Highway Star' by Deep Purple, 'Sin City' by AC/DC and
even UFO's 'Lights Out'. Kerry still has cassettes and photos
of these shows, but for understandable reasons is reluctant
to release them. All four remember it as a thrillingly nïave
era. |
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But
as Jeff Hanneman reveals, "There was never any master plan
for success", and Araya admits that his only real wish
was that Slayer would some day release their own vinyl album.
It was Dave Lombardo's decision to integrate a punkier, speedier
style into their music that enabled Tom's dream to come true. |
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The
turning point came in 1983, when Brian Slagel of Metal Blade
Records spoke to Dave Lombardo after a gig at a venue called
Woodstock. Although Dave temporarily mislaid Slagel's card,
Slayer ended up cutting the track 'Aggressive Perfector' for
the 'Metal Massacre III' album. By the end of that year, they
had spent a week and $1,400 recording a full-length album called
'Show No Mercy'. |
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"Dave
Mustaine was a prick, is a prick and always will be a prick" |
| Metal
Blade handed the novice, penniless quartet a list of dates and
despatched them on their first tour across America
in Tom's
car! A couple of years later, with their second album 'Hell Awaits'
and the 'Haunting The Chapel' EP having fanned the flames of a
growing reputation, a similar experience occurred during their
first European outing. "We were so young and idiotic, but we had no fear," recalls Tom proudly. "We got on a plane and landed in London, expecting to be met with a tour bus. But we had to drive ourselves and navigate, and being the oldest I had to sign the van rental form!" The trek included a now legendary sold-out show at London's Marquee Club. Attended by a mixture of metalheads, punks and assorted drunken freaks, Slayer were astounded to be spat at by their excited audience. Recoils King: "Nottingham Rock City was even worse. You got those globules on the frets, but you couldn't stop playing. I felt sorry for Tom, who was a sitting target. He was covered in loogies." |
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To make matters worse, although 'Show No Mercy' and 'Hell Awaits'
had quickly sold 60,000 and 100,00 copies respectively, Slayer
were still treated as a joke by the press. Bristles Jeff: "We
liked our music and we didn't give a fuck what some asshole
reviewer said. It just didn't fucking matter." |
| In
1985, a year before their big breakthrough, Kerry took a temporary
leave to fill in with Megadeth, ex-Metallica guitarist Dave Mustaine's
newly formed outfit. But when it came to making a choice between
Slayer or Megadeth, he had no doubts. "I played some shows with them, but Dave's not happy unless everyone around him is miserable," he points out. "I don't even remember whether he wanted me to stay but Mustaine was a prick, is a prick and always will be a prick - and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that." Slayer's self-confidence was vindicated the following year. Produced by rap impresario Rick Rubin, maverick owner of hip-hop label Def Jam, 'Reign In Blood' remains not only their best album to date, but a cornerstone in the development of extreme music. Rubin has since worked with artists like System Of A Down and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but in 1986 a collaboration with a band like Slayer was deemed impossible. At the time, however, the group themselves didn't comprehend the magnitude of their creation. "It was ahead of its time and we thought it sounded great, but we've never been a band to analyse things too deeply," reflects Tom. Jeff agrees: "To us it was a masterpiece, but we didn't know whether anyone else would agree and we didn't even fucking care!" Lombardo even suggests that Rubin's name helped them to be taken seriously. He says: "How could the press disrespect a band that somebody that well respected was working with? The only reason they turned their heads around was because of Rick. They wouldn't have given a shit if we were still on our own and making the same records." Have Slayer ever considered what might have happened if they'd not crossed paths with Rick Rubin? "That's a good question, I've never thought about it before," Kerry ponders. "Rick took the reverb out of our sound and made us into what we wanted to be, but don't forget that they were a bunch of great songs." "Honestly, we might still be doing the Metal Blade thing," considers Tom. "We'd probably still be taking things day by day, which is what we still do now." |
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"What
did you want 'Angel Of Death' to say, 'Ooooh, Mengele was a
very, very bad man?'" |
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'Angel
Of Death', the opening track from 'Reign In Blood' was penned
by Hanneman about infamous Auschwitz doctor Josef Mengele. It
caused considerable controversy, even causing Def Jam's UK distributor
to pass on issuing the album here (London Records later picked
it up). 'Angel Of Death' was one of several war-themed songs
written by Hanneman, whose own father had fought at Normandy,
and whose band-mates Araya and Lombardo were of Cuban and Chilean
extraction. The song included the line "Sickening ways
to achieve the holocaust", but because it did not actually
condemn Mengele, Slayer were branded Nazis. |
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what if your sleeve tipped somebody considering the idea of suicide
over the edge? "Man, they were already fucked up to begin
with," he says dismissively. "Sometimes people kill
each other - and themselves - for no reason". Over the years, Slayer have had what they laughingly term "discussions" with those who've chosen to picket their shows, but mostly one-sided ones. Araya once sat down to talk at length with an evangelist that he refuses to name, but came away frustrated that while he was sometimes willing to take on boards the preacher's opinions, it wasn't unanimous. The strangest thing is that the bassist has a foot in both camps. A man of strong Christian beliefs, he's nevertheless happy to stand on stage and sing songs like 'Evil Has No Boundaries'. "I believe in God," says Tom quietly. "Kerry's written most of our Satanic lyrics, but I've never been asked to sing anything I've been uncomfortable with." Likewise, the difference between Tom onstage and off is staggering. Mild-mannered and polite in person, he's introduced Slayer songs with references to performing oral sex on female corpses ("Every time I eat them out, I can feel the maggots crunching in my teeth"). "I'm a laid-back guy, that stage persona is just a part of me," he responds. "It's like a switch that goes on and off. We could sit here and I could freak you with discussions about some sick, fucked-up shit - but we don't have to." |
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| Araya, who'd read a book on the serial killer Ed Gein, turned it into the standout song 'Dead Skin Mask' on Slayer's next album, 1990's 'Seasons In The Abyss'. The band appeared on the European leg of Clash Of The Titans tour, alongside Testament, Suicidal Tendencies and headliners Megadeth, however it ws marred by Slayer and Megadeth bickering about each other in the press. ' Abyss' was to be the last studio album to feature Dave Lombardo, who quit - seemingly for good - two years later. When asked why, he now responds: "I don't want to touch that question. I only want to talk about positive things." |
| "We
didn't like Dave's wife being around. She'd even sit next to
him on the drum riser |
| "At
the time, it was a relief for me - probably for all of us,"
reveals Kerry. "Dave's performances were going downhill,
yet now he's playing better than he was 12 years ago - he's kicking
ass. But at that point, something had to be done. Yeah, we didn't
like his wife being around, but looking back it was all about
performance. The two things were related because she would fuck
up his playing; she'd even sit next to him on the drum riser and
if she wanted to screw with his head she could do that. And we
couldn't afford to fuck up at that level." In 1991, Slayer celebrated their tenth anniversary with the double concert set 'Decade Of Aggression'. Recorded in London, California and Florida, it caught the original line-up at their peak. Ex-Forbidden skinsman Paul Bostaph, Lombardo's replacement, had enormous shoes to fill, but the new Slayer line-up received the seal of approval at Castle Donington in '92. Relations between Slayer and their former drummer had worsened, and it was rumoured that they gave Bostaph a Gold album for work recorded with Lombardo, telling Dave if he wanted one, then he had to buy it himself! |
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1993
was a relatively quiet year for Slayer, save for releasing the
collaborative track 'Disorder' with Ice-T on the 'Judgement Night'
soundtrack album. Bostaph did a great job on 1994's 'Divine Intervention',
an album that many felt was the natural successor to 'Reign In
Blood'. It even made the US Top Ten - despite a sleeve that featured
a fan carving the band's name into his arm. Hanneman's song 'SS-3',
which was about Nazi hangman Reinhard Heydrich, also revived old
media hostilities. "The 'Divine Intervention' record had a horrible muddy mix, but Bostaph and Lombardo were both gods," enthuses King. "I've not seen every drummer in the world, but those are the two best dudes I've seen." |
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Slayer
played Donington again in 1995, also accusing new kids on the
block Sepultura of trying to steal their sound with the 'Chaos
A.D.' album. Although the two parties have since reconciled,
Tom now says: "It's true - they stole our sound because
they hired (producer) Andy Wallace. And they got Andy because
they liked what he'd done with us." |
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"I
had no problem with opening for Slipknot because I knew they
had one great record in them, |
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How
far would you bend over backwards to keep Dave with Slayer?
Kerry explodes with laughter, snorting: "That's a question
I'm not touching! As people, we're cool again. It's possible
he'll stay
and it's not impossible." |
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Is
that musically or personality-wise? |
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| You're
saying that you envisage remaining with Slayer where schedules
permit? |
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Slayer
have outlived numerous musical fads and now find themselves cast
in the mould of their heroes Motörhead. Traditionally stuck
in the middle of the bill at events like the Ozzfest, they appeal
to the young and old alike and have a habit of wiping the stage
with most of the bands that follow them. After 21 years in the business, reliable old Slayer have reportedly collected just five Gold albums, but insist they're happy with their place in life. "Actually, I think it's just four," Kerry corrects me. Okay, so how do Slayer feel when a band like Slipknot comes along, sells a million right off the bat, and they end up supporting them? "I had no problem with opening for Slipknot because I knew they had one great record in them, and that the second one would be even tougher for them," offers Tom graciously. |
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"If
there's a third one, it'll be called 'Make Or Break' - but it
won't break us," guffaws Jeff, unleashing a particularly
noxious fart. "No, if we have to go on earlier than we
think we should, that's our chance to go and drink beer and
enjoy Ozzy. We don't sit around and complain, or even think
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| MOTORMOUTH! "It's
ironic that Ozzy can play for the Queen, but not show up for
two Ozzfests." "Have
you seen his hair? Now he's trying to be Phil Anselmo. I've
never slagged Machine Head - the band. We considered them sacred
because we took them out on their first tour. But I've not liked
anything they've done since the first album. So if Flynn interprets
that as me saying, 'You suck and so does everything you're about',
well
sorry." "It
was the most Spïnal Tap thing I ever saw. They've got three
guitar players onstage and you can't hear any of them until
one does a lead. There's something seriously wrong with that." "I
don't know whether they were doing a raindance at the Ozzfest,
but I think I heard them doing a chant that would give them
some credibility." "You
know why he turned the gig [with us] down? His mum wouldn't
let him play in Slayer!" "Musically
they're pretty happening, but not that entertaining to watch.
I need to be entertained, anybody can play fucking guitar." "I
hate to see them fail because they're my heroes, but the songwriting
on their last two records just sucked a big dick." "Interviewers
come to me and ask me questions because they want a fucking
opinion - and I've got one." |
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© Dave Ling |
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Metal
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