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RITCHIE
BLACKMORE
© Dave Ling - January
1987
previously published in Metal Hammer magazine
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I
must confess that it feels a little odd to be sitting opposite
Ritchie Blackmore in a Connecticut restaurant.
A
little more than nine hours and 4,000 miles earlier, I had been
stirred from a blissful slumber with a completely unexpected
call from Metal Hammers editor.
Deep
Purples retiring guitarist had requested our presence
with a view to chatting about the bands forthcoming House
Of The Blue Light album and tour, and when somebody like
Ritchie Blackmore expresses interest in a chat, you dont
let paltry things like oceans get in the way.
So, here we are, the two of us, deep in conversation. With someone
whose words are rare as this particular subject, I always try
to cut out the waffle and give a flavour of what went down.
"You dont do many interviews, do you Ritchie?"
I enquire.
"No, but to be quite honest thats the way I like
it," he grins. "I tend to be too honest, and the people
from the record company dont like it."
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The guitarist has been based in the States since around 1974 when
he evidently got stuck in the country and decided to remain here
due to an assortment of reasons.
"Officially,
its for the taxman, but theres more to it than that,"
he reveals. "I can go to a club here and I dont feel
the tension. Englands built a lot more on tension and nervous
energy. Here,
people just wanna play, maaan, and take drugs and things. Americas
good because they dont have such a chip on their shoulder,
but at the same time theyre not as creative as the Europeans.
But in England theres that situation of being the ice cream
of the month. Certain bands are in for a while and
then quite suddenly its onto the next one."
Do
you resent the way that the press has treated the band, then?
"I
just dont wanna read it anymore. I always knew we were gonna
be knocked, but now its got to the point where theyve
knocked us so much that they cant knock us anymore. So now
they pick on everyone else and its great fun. I get a great
kick out of it. I know this is gonna sound weird but sometimes
theres a part of me that [reads the criticism] and says,
Yeah, I agree with that. We shouldnt have released
so-and-so. Thats party why I dont do press receptions
or go around as an ambassador for the band Im liable
to agree with someone who says that the latest LP stinks.
"But
I do think that the English music press has become incredibly
humorous," he continues. "I was reading the Melody Maker
the other day and there was this stuff about Paul McCartney. They
were just crucifying him; the best composer weve had in
the past hundred years. They were saying that he had too much
money and he was overweight with this horrible wife. I can imagine
them saying the same thing about Beethoven in his day."
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"I
dont go around as an ambassador for the band Im
liable to agree with someone
who says that the latest LP stinks"
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last time Id seen Blackmore in the flesh was in London.
It was the night before Purples gig at Knebworth Park and
hed crept into the Marquee Club in Wardour Street to see
Chariot. Though unannounced and decidedly low-key, he was still
the subject of a flurry of attention. Does he get much opportunity
to check out up n coming new talent?
"Its
great to be able to go to a club, but it gets a bit awkward when
people come up and ask for my autograph," he sighs. "I
just think, Why? Its great for showbiz people
like Rod Stewart he gets worried if people dont ask
him for his but Im really not into showbiz. I just
like to think that Im a kind of above average musician.
"I
dont go to clubs to check out the opposition, thats
gonna show itself on record or on the radio sooner or later,"
he clarifies. "I just like to see a band playing and its
almost like a childhood memory. You start to remember what its
like to play in a small club and the good feelings of the time."
So
those early days still hold fond recollections for him?
"Some
of them," laughs Ritchie. "Its nothing to do with
whether or not I was starving at the time. The starving days were
some of the best times, but sometimes I was playing with musicians
that I hated. Some of them were complete snobs who thought that
if you played rock n roll you were too loud. Especially
playing with Screaming Lord Such & The Savages; half the band
were rock n roll and half the band were jazz snobs.
They used to drive me crazy. The happiest times were the days
at the Star Club in Hamburg, 1955. They were some of my favourite
experiences. I used to knock off the chambermaid when her fiancée
would drop her off. Things like that used to make it." |
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sort of bands does Ritchie listen to these days?
"I
dont listen to too many bands. I listen to individual players.
At the moment Im listening to a band called Mannheim Steamroller.
They play Christmas carols, but in such a way that its really
great. Theyre like a synthesizer band with mandolins. There
are some really incredible, gripping chord changes."
Is
this man winding me up? Im not sure. Does he still listen
to much classical music?
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"Yep, but not as much. People tend to term classical music
as being from the 17th Century onwards, but I tend to listen to
a lot of medieval music. It stirs the soul. I believe in reincarnation,
so it must all kind of tie in. Not too many rock bands do it for
me. Ive heard it all before, but not as fast."
So
what does he make of Metallica, for instance?
"Ive heard of them, but Ive not heard them yet,"
he admits. "Ill catch the odd guitarist, though. There
are some quite good ones around, but the bands are just sort of
okay. The guitarists are outstanding."
Hes
got a point. Theres a whole new wave of rock guitarists
filtering though at the moment.
"Yeah, but the latest trend seems to be how fast you can
get from A to B without actually playing anything," Blackmore
observes. "Its good, but I find it leaves me cold.
Okay, you can hear that the guy has practised, but whats
he feeling? A lot of people are out to impress, but the guy that
sticks out at the moment is Steve Vai [of David Lee Roths
band]. Hes really shit-hot. Not only can he play every style
there is, he can write and transpose the whole thing as well.
He can play the very fast licks, or hell just play it another
way. Amazing."
And
what about Yngwie J Malmsteen? Ive seen reviews that suggest
the Swedes new LP Trilogy is a Rainbow Rising
for the 1980s. Ritchie nods in agreement.
"I think hed be the first person to say that, too,"
he says. "People ask me what I think of this guy copying
me. Usually I dont think much of people copying at all,
but hes been doing it incredibly well. The guy is a brilliant
guitar player. Some of my fans must think that I hate Yngwie,
but were actually good friends. Hes worked his arse
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Now
that Ritchie has had two years to sit back and consider Deep
Purples comeback album Perfect Strangers,
what does he think of it objectively?
"I dont really know what to say," he says, genuinely
lost for words. "You turn out LPs like sausages in a way.
Thats not putting the album down, I just hate looking
back."
At
the time of its release, bassist Roger Glover commented that
the album gave the Deep Purple fans what they wanted, suggesting
that any experimentation would follow with the next album. Now
that House Of The Blue Light is here, did Glovers
prediction come true?
"Rogers known to be a liar," Ritchie quips.
"Hes a great guy, but he does give incredibly dull
interviews. Ive never looked at it the way he does. We
dont set out to give the fans what they want, we just
give ourselves what we want. Luckily the fans are in there,
too. They like what we like."
So
how would Blackmore describe the progression from Perfect
Strangers to House Of The Blue Light? When
he replies, I think hes misheard my question.
"Do you know George Bodnar?" he responds. |
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of course. Crazy George is a photographer of some
repute.
"Well, he asked me that same question. And when I said that
I liked this new album a lot, her said, Cor, thats
amazing. It must be really good. With this album [pauses]
I dont think Id go as far as to say I was excited
about it, but I play it quite a lot, which is very unusual. Ian
[Gillan]s singing is amazing. He had an operation on his
tonsils and his voice is sounding so rich. Its gone down
about a semi-tone, so Im well pleased with that. We actually
did take a long time over this album; went back and re-recorded
most of the tracks."
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"Joe
Lynn Turner was a fucking drag. He was such a nice guy at the
start,
but then he got into drugs and started thinking he was the cats
whiskers"
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all a far cry from the first Deep Purple album, then. Released
in September 1968, Shades Of Deep Purple was completed
in just 18 hours.
"Yeah, that first one, we took two takes on everything. And
that was one try and another in case we made a mistake."
Okay,
lets bring things back to the 1980s again. Who actually
instigated the Deep Purple reunion two years ago?
"It was going around for ages," he replies. "There
were a few nights when I came off stage with Rainbow and would
ponder that there were so many fans of Deep Purple around. I was
picking up a genuine interest. I was having a good time with Rainbow,
but I thought that [a Deep Purple reunion] would be a good idea
now that Id got having my own band out of my system.
"I was getting crazy and there were all sorts of problems,"
he adds. "I felt there were some people who were getting
a bit lazy in certain areas. That was the first thing that got
me into the idea. So I went round to Ian Gillans house at
Christmas one year and asked him to join Rainbow. He said no,
so we got drunk and that was it.
"Then about four years later he initiated it. I was getting
very cheesed off with my singer [Joe Lynn Turner] and I knew that
I couldnt get another one. This guy was like I dont
like speaking badly about other musicians, but Im going
to this guy was a fucking drag. He was such a nice guy
at the start, but then he got into drugs and started thinking
he was the cats whiskers. I took that for about a year and
then said, Thats it. All the time I had the
Purple thing going and I was excited and then down about it. Then
Joe started acting up, I just decided to knock Rainbow on the
head. So we put Purple back together. It was time to go back.
"We had all started to lose respect for each other when Ian
left [in 1973]. We were a bit younger and into revelling against
whatever we were doing even success. It took 10 years for
us to look back and think, Yeah, that was good. So
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If
Ritchie had to put the original split down to one factor, what
would it be?
"Ah, the split," he muses playfully. "That was
the inevitable thing. It was like the seven-year itch. You just
have to get away from it. And its odd. A lot of the bands
that Ive been fond of have tended to split up after about
seven years.
"Funnily
enough, I wanted to get a band together with Phil Lynott [Thin
Lizzy bassist/vocalist]. It was going to be Phil, Ian Paice [Purple
drummer] and myself. A trio. We made a couple of records that
still must be around in the vaults. This was way back in 1972/3.
I kept saying to Ian [Paice], Thats it, Im leaving.
And hed say he was with me, but would wonder if it was wise.
I was sick of the safe bet."
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there any doubts when Purple were finally put back together again?
"Oh yeah, it was a big gamble. But I thought it would be
fun. I saw Ian [Gillan] objectively at the Marquee with his band
[Gillan] and he was incredible. And yet I never thought he was
incredible when he was in the band. Then I got talking to him
again and he told me to hurry up and make up my mind what I was
doing, or he would go and join Black Sabbath. But it was a gradual
thing."
When
did it dawn upon Ritchie that things were going to work out?
"I think it was on the first part of the tour, in Australia.
I suddenly realised that there was a gap for this type of music
because only ZZ Top were doing that aggressive stuff. Everyone
was playing like The Police. And can I state here that I hate
The Police?"
Indeed
you can. I loathe them, too.
"There just wasnt a band playing that earthy kind of
rock," he continues. "Our music isnt contrived,
and there isnt that sheen of gloss."
Heres
another quote from Roger Glover. Hes said that he thinks
there will always be a Deep Purple; that the world needs you.
How much credence does Ritchie give this theory?
"Its quite a profound statement, and Roger doesnt
take drugs," he responds sagely. "Yeah, I suppose so.
Thats the kind of promotional statement that the record
company will love. As long as the world doesnt need The
Police, thats all I care about." |
"Im
really not into showbiz. I just like to think that Im
a kind of above-average musician"
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frankly, many people were surprised that Deep Purple have made
a second reunion album. Some anticipated the band coming back,
taking the money and doing a runner.
"Thats true. After wed done the first one, lots
of people kept asking what we were doing next. They all assumed
it was a one-off. It was interesting to see that reaction. Everyone
thought that I would automatically just put Rainbow back together
again."
Does
that mean you wont do it should Purple call it a day again?
"No. Never. I would do something else with somebody else
again. Im so sick of the name Rainbow. It was something
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Talking
of history, a cynic might suggest that Deep Purple have no been
around for so long, theres nothing fresh left for them to
do.
"Being a cynical person myself, I dont blame them,"
he beams mischievously. "But as this LP proves, we havent
run out of steam at all. I go into the studio, play the riff without
any preconceived ideas at all, and see how it feels. Thats
how we write our songs. Other bands will sit around with acoustic
guitars, we never do any of that."
Purple
will commence a string of European dates to promote the album
in March, with the Brian Howe-fronted version of Bad Company set
to open for them. Its pleasing to see that Purple are playing
a proper tour this time around, as opposed to a one-off like Knebworth.
"I dont see it as touring," Blackmore fires back
with a shrug. "I like to see it more as travelling around
with a guitar, rather than talking about the tour and the lights
and everything. Thats when the competition comes in and
you have to try to outdo all the other bands."
Blackmore
is known for his spontaneity. I recalled that once he swapped
instruments with Roger Glover during a concert version of Smoke
On The Water.
"Yeah," he laughs. "Rogers a bit of a frustrated
guitarist. The first time I did that, he didnt know what
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Glover
is certainly not the only one to have fallen foul of Blackmores
celebrated onstage sense of humour. On another notable occasion,
Joe Lynn Turner was left all on his lonesome when Rainbow played
at the Michael Sobell Sports Centre in London. The poor guy was
so shocked, he didnt know what to do and had to resort to
impersonating trains while the rest of the band laughed their
heads off in the dressing room.
"Thats more than likely," recalls Ritchie with
a sadistic smile. "What wed do was that Id signal
to the drummer, and wed stop. Id come in after four
bars and wed all dash off and leave him. Sure enough, we
took it down to a whisper and left him there. Joe wasnt
the kind of guy to laugh it off, he wanted to use it as a big
opportunity. We havent left Ian Gillan out there yet, but
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"I
dont think Id go as far as to say I was excited
about House Of The Blue Light
but I play it quite a lot, which is very unusual"
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Hardly
the words of a moody bastard, youll probably agree. Even
if he will admit to the odd bout of gamesmanship, is his reputation
justified or did I just catch Blackmore on a good day?
"Well get into the moodiness later if you stick around,"
he promises. "No, I think its just a natural characteristic
which has been exaggerated. People tend to take things the wrong
way. Its only because I care about the things we do. But
Im a hypocrite anyway. I never really believe what I say,
not when it comes to rock n roll."
Does
he enjoy baring his soul to complete strangers in the interview
scenario?
"No," says Blackmore abruptly. "Im too
vulnerable. Not from a critics angle, but from other angles
as a person. Im a sensitive person. One minute Im
too sensitive and the next Im thick. I dont give
a damn what anybody else days. Theres never a dull moment
with me. I just dont know what Im thinking of sometimes.
Sometimes even friends will call up and theyll know to
leave me alone."
So
finally, is Ritchie Blackmore happy with the way things are
going?
"At the moment Im quite happy, but then what is happiness?"
Okay,
lets rephrase the question. How content is he with the
progress that Deep Purple have made with House Of The
Blue Light?
"I really like what weve done," he concludes.
"I think its worth a listen. Give it a few listens
and see what you think." |
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